6/9 Update: to Co-Op apply for Alcohol Licence 7am-11pm, 7 days a week!


Cardiff Council Licencing committee will review the Co-Op’s application at their meeting at 10 am on Friday 13 September. Everyone who wrote should have received a letter from the council inviting them to speak or nominate a speaker. Cardiff Council received over 40 letters in relation to the Co-Op licencing application – many thanks to everyone who wrote.  If you wrote and have not received one please contact the council. We will post the outcomes as soon as we have them.

Co-op Supermarket update

The Co-op definitely plan to open a supermarket store at the Pontcanna Pine / Dairy site. Legally, they only need planning permission for signage, as they are converting the existing building. They also need an alcohol licence.

store frontimagesAt the public meeting the Co-op said that to open a store on this site they NEED to sell alcohol, from 7am to 10pm, for 7 days a week. The Co-op said they could NOT shorten those hours, and have in fact applied for a longer licence, from 7am to 11pm, 7 days a week.

What can you do if you wish to object to this?

‘Interested parties or responsible authorities’ should complete Cardiff Council’s forms, please click to download:
Co-op Representation Form  information sheet  and send it to them. Your objections should be based on the licensing objectives and must be submitted to the council before the end of the consultation period on 26th August 2013.

When making their decision the Council are ONLY able to take into account any issues which may impact on 1 or more of the 4 licensing objectives below:

store images•  Protection of Children from Harm
•  Prevention of Public Nuisance
•  Public Safety
•  Prevention of Crime and Disorder

(More information please view ‘Home Office: Amended Guidance issued under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003’ – from page 11

Post or hand in your form to: Licensing Section, Cardiff Council, Room 161, City Hall, Cardiff CF10 3ND Quoting ref: LSS/CCCP/01731. Or email your form to: licensing@cardiff.gov.uk quoting ref: LSS/CCCP/01731

Please copy your councillors: our Labour councillors have offered to represent us at the meeting, they are iona.gordon@ntlworld.com & phil.hawkins@cardiff.gov.uk
& lovece@cardiff.ac.uk Also your AM, including Mark Drakeford AM Mark.Drakeford@Wales.gov.uk.

What will happen next?

At the end of the consultation period, if objections have been received then a hearing will be arranged, normally within 2-3 weeks. Any person who has made written representations will be invited to attend the hearing and will be permitted to voice their concerns to the Committee.

lorry imagesIf the Co-op get the alcohol licence and planning for signage there will be nothing stopping them from opening their store 7am – 11pm, 7 days a week. They are planning to do this by the end of 2013.

Thank you. You can email us on: pontcannahub2011@gmail.com

Co-op decides to ‘Progress’ Supermarket plans.

On Friday Mike Ash-Edwards emailed to say that the Co-op have decided to progress their plans for a supermarket at the PontcannaPine/Dairy site, following a decision by their Regional Board.

– Opening hours everyday including Sundays of  7am – 10pm

– They intend to seek permission for ‘Off-Sales’ of alcohol

– The Co-op will be trying to get a lottery licence

– Deliveries will be 9.30am – 6pm

– They have not yet decided if they will sell newspapers

This is exactly the same plan they presented at the start of the meeting with their team in Chapter.

Thank you to those who wrote letters, signed the petitions and came to the meetings.

Please continue to support your local businesses, you can choose where you shop and who you support. These businesses are a valuable part of our great community and we hope that people will continue to shop with them.

07/07/13 UPDATE: Meeting with Co-op team about their Pontcanna Supermarket

UPDATE 07/07/13: Many thanks to everyone who signed and helped to create our 1210 SIGNATURE petition, a real community effort. The Coop said that this and our Representation to the Co-op letter and Review of revised developer’s traffic report191012 plus Coop member’s letters would be presented to the Cymru/Wales Regional Board meeting on 03/07. They said they would update us with the results from this meeting ‘in due course’ – watch this space…meetingThanks to all who attended the Co-op meeting last Thursday, and also to the Co-op team for giving everyone an opportunity ask questions and share their views and Alan for being a great chair. The Co-op were very clear on their plans, and we’ve outlined those below. CO-OP_LeafletIn response to some aspects of their proposed store we have started a petition survey. We have until Tuesday 2nd to record people’s views – the surveys are in some of the local shops and you can download a blank copy of here: Co-op 2013 PETITION if you wish to get some signatures. We have also created an information leaflet which you can download it HERE. Petitions can be returned to local stores with petitions or to 31/35 Severn Grove, by 5pm Tuesday July 2 at latest. If you wish to survey a street or area please email us. Thank you. ADDITION TO FIRST POST Mike Ash-Edwards from the Coop has said that any Coop members who have concerns about these plans can email him and he will present your letters to the regional board on Weds: pls email: mike.ash-edwards@co-operative.coop To read a copy of a Coop member’s letter please click HERE, deadline for letters is Monday. UPDATE: The CO-OP have confirmed they are planning to put a CONVENIENCE SUPERMARKET on the Dairy/Pontcanna Pine site. What will the supermarket will look like? • A supermarket store which will trade 7 days a week, 7.00am – 10.00pm. • Retailing bread, meat, fruit, vegetables, household products, alcohol and will probably also be a lottery outlet. • Conversion of existing building into 2000 square feet store sales area with 1000 square feet storage inside the building space. • At this time, they are only proposing to rent the existing Dairy building for 15 years, but not the remainder of the site. • No confirmed delivery plan, they’re considering their vans reversing in/out of  of the space to the left building, over the pavement near the Severn Grove junction. What will happen next? They have undertaken some initial research around traffic and trade, and will present their proposal to their Cymru/Wales Regional Board on July 3 2013. They need their board’s approval to proceed. Most people at the consultation meeting (20/06) felt their information wasn’t correct, and didn’t reflect what it’s like to live & work in Pontcanna. As the Co-op stated that: 1. NO-ONE WOULD DRIVE TO THE STORE So the Co-op supermarket would not add to the existing traffic, parking and congestion issues in any way at all. 2. THE STORE WOULD NOT TAKE ANY TRADE AWAY FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES The Co-op supermarket will supply bread, meat, fruit, vegetables, household products, alcohol and probably be a lottery outlet, but will take no trade away from existing – many family run – businesses and stores. 3. AT THE MEETING ON 20/06 THEY DID NOT HAVE A CONFIRMED DELIVERY MANAGEMENT PLAN At the meeting the Co-op had specific data and plans for many aspects of the store but no specific delivery management plan for their delivery lorries. Why are we doing a petition? We need more time to undertake surveys to provide the board with more additional, accurate information. We’d like to present the board with a petition on July 3 showing that a large number of people in Pontcanna don’t agree with their initial research. Also that we are willing to commision and pay for surveys to provide additional data to assist their decision-making at the next board meeting in September. Please sign the petition and share with your neighbours and friends in the area. We need all petitions by 5pm Tuesday July 2, at the latest – please email us with any queries you have. Many thanks – The Pontcanna Hub team.

Developer defeated again…

PrintPontcanna Pine/Dairy Update: We are very very pleased 🙂 to report that the Council Planning Committee has again REFUSED planning permission for the convenience store and 8 flats scheme proposed for the Pontcanna Pine site. We don’t know what the developers’ next move will be – We are sure the saga isn’t completely over yet – but the vote against the development was unanimous on grounds of the traffic and parking issues.

Thank you so much for all your tireless support, petitioning, and letter writing over such a long time – it has really helped to demonstrate that this was a completely unacceptable scheme for this location. We would again like to thank Mike from the Cooperative for coming to our meeting, and communicating with the Press and the Council, that the developers’ statement that the Co-op were currently interested in placing a supermarket on this site – were fictitious.

We end this post with a question from a supporter, if you have any thoughts/suggestions on this (we do!) please email us: “Has anyone thought about the community buying it / leasing it long term on a co-op type basis?”

Best wishes & Happy 2013! – The Pontcanna Pine team

Below are some of the 40+ responses to our email, thank you:

“Brilliant news.  So good to have won for once – people power – hurrah!”

“Unanimous – wow! I’m quite ready for more letter writing, knocking on doors too, if the saga isn’t over.”

“Good news. It’s probably not the end but hopefully the unanimous vote will tell them something.”

“Thank you so much for all the teams efforts. Grateful residents of Kings Road.”

“Fantastic news! Though as you say, it may not be over yet…”

“Congratulations to you and the team for all the hard work in achieving this stage as a success victory.”

“Brilliant brilliant news!!!!!!

 Well done everyone!!!!

 Glass of wine to celebrate.”

“On behalf of Cardiff Civic Society – congratulations!”

“Hooray! Llandaff fields development next??”

 “This is fabulous news !!!! I will now celebrate with marmite on toast and my cup of tea.”

 “I’m so delighted to hear this news! Each day I drive through this area, I think how crazy it would be to put more development there. The junction is already a dangerous place at times!” 

“Congratulations. A lovely early Christmas gift to us all.”

 “Horray! But you are right we need to keep our noses to the ground as no doubt there will be future developments.”

‘Hands off Llandaff Fields!’


At our last community meeting Gill Boden and Iona Gordon gave an update on the proposed ‘Llandaff Fields Community and Sports Trust’ plans. At the moment these have not been submitted to the planning committee but the developers have held meetings and conducted research to support their plans and a future application.

They explained how the land was gifted to the city for community and sports use. The Trust, claims to represent 32 sport and community organisations. We  were told at the meeting that the organisations were approached and asked if they would be interested in access to free rooms and resources, without being full updated on the plans.

It would in fact be a private members club, and be a space which events and conferences could hire. There are already several similar buildings in the vicinity, including the SWALEC stadium nearby – which has ample parking and delivery access.

They are proposing that rooms/space would be available for community groups to use. We of course welcome this aspect feature is of course welcomed, but at the price of a private members sports club that can hold approx. 300 people standing, with a full bar and a two storey building in middle of a beautiful public park. We naturally have concerns about their delivery and access plans, which propose using the bridle way next to the allotments and riding stables.

As Martyn Williams, who chairs the trust, explained how the centre will be available for classes, conferences and fundraising activities providing first class sporting facilities. This is a complete change of use, with the maintainence and transport required to run a large sports club in the middle of the fields potentially having a major negative impact on the parklands.

Local resident Jane Williams said: “We also have no issue with building new changing rooms at Llandaff Fields but we do object to building an events venue and bar and having it as part of the university.”

If you would like more information please contact us, we will continue to provide updates on the progress of these plans and future contact details as they emerge.

*Thanks to walesonline for the photo and references in this article: http://yourcardiff.walesonline.co.uk/2012/12/21/protesters-interrupt-dedication-of-pontcanna-fields/

Also of interest: ‘Pontcanna Fields are the centre of city life, 365 days a year’: http://yourcardiff.walesonline.co.uk/2012/03/26/guest-blog-pontcanna-fields-are-the-centre-of-city-life-365-days-a-year/

Council recommend rejecting developer’s supermarket plans!


Great news yesterday that Cardiff Council have AGAIN recommended rejecting the developer’s proposed supermarket plans for the Pontcanna Pine / Dairy site on Kings Road. Huge thanks to everyone who wrote letters/emails, signed petitions, tweeted, came to the meetings and contributed to the campaign… Proof that community action does work. 

To read the council report in more detail please download this council document and read from page 65 (pdf page 72).

We would still like people to attend the planning meeting, as it’s not a guaranteed that the application won’t be approved, and its likely the developer will appeal. The application going to Planning Committee on Wednesday 5th December. they will meet at 2.30pm in the Ferrrier Hall at City Hall.

And here are some more Pontcanna updates:

Pontcanna Art Fair
Pontcanna Hub’s own Felicity Auden is taking part in the Pontcanna Arts Fair on Sunday 2 December from 2-5pm at St Catherine’s Church Hall, Kings Road. Free entry, some lovely art and ideal Christmas gifts, with art and music activities too – and of course mulled wine and minced pies to get you into the Christmas spirit.

SUBURBAN DISCOsuburbandiscoYes its that time again, Pontcanna Hub are keen supporters of the Suburban Disco, this time its a Christmas special with free glass of Christmas Punch and cake – plus the usual groovy 70’s and 80’s toons and disco dancing – a great place to get a gang of mates and bop til you drop!

Tickets are selling fast, for more info and to send him your disco dance requests please  contact Steve Biddlecombe: sjbiddleuk@yahoo.co.uk or visit the Christmas Suburban Disco facebook page.

Developer’s ficticious plans for Co-Op at Pontcanna Pine!

Thanks to everyone who came to the community meeting on Monday to show their support for the campaign. A BIG thank you especially to Mike Ash-Edwards, the Regional Secretary Co-Op Cymru Wales Region, for making a special guest appearance to eloquently and categorically deny any truth in Chris Voyle’s plans for a Co-op supermarket at Pontcanna Pine / Dairy site.

Mike with meeting chair, Alan Lane.

The developer has based their whole resubmission around the ‘fact’ (now proving to be fiction) that the Co-Op had agreed ‘heads of terms’ – and would move in should planning permission for a supermarket be given. Mike had spent most of the day 100 % confirming the fact that there were no proposed plans – so this wasn’t a PR stunt, it was a genuine action delivered in the values of the Co-Op which has community members at its heart.

Iona Gordon created more detailed minutes from the meeting – download here.
You can click here to download plans: letter and parking and traffic data and revised Co-op Supermarket plans and Here is the link to the proposals if you wish to view the plans:

Here is a visual map of main differences:

The remainder of the meeting consisted of a presentation of the minor changes to the plans, and a request for everyone to write letters / emails to the council by 22 October. More detailed minutes are available to download here. Simon White was unable to be present, but had again invested a great deal of time creating detailed analysis which demonstrated that the picture submitted by the developer was designed to create a certain impression of the area. We kindly request people to write with real stories, experiences and concerns, so the council have an accurate view of the reality of the area and the negative impact a supermarket would have.

• Planning Objection – by October 22  Ref Number to quote: 11/01213/DC1.
• The planning meeting is on Wednesday 7 November at 2.30 pm in City Hall
• development@cardiff.gov.uk please copy us on our email if you can

Read today’s press article in the Echo where the developer did not take the opportunity to provide public evidence to support his proposals: “But in a statement to YourCardiff tonight, Mr Voyle would not be drawn on the Co-op’s comments. He said: “I was not present at the public meeting and have not spoken with the Co-op in respect of any comments and have no wish to enter into a debate in the press on this issue.” 

Lastly we want to thank all our supporters, local businesses, tweeters and bloggers – it really is a team effort. The Co-Op speaker at the meeting was due to a tweeter making direct contact to check the developers plans. Thank you again, Pontcanna Pine Team.

We will update in the next post about the proposed Pontcanna Fields Sports Development,

They’re back… Co-op Supermarket Planned for Pontcanna Pine site


This gallery contains 11 photos.

As anticipated, despite having their proposals recommended for rejection last time and OVERWHELMING PUBLIC CRITICISM OF THE PLANS the developers have DISREGARDED LOCALS’ CONCERNS and resubmitted plans for a supermarket on the Pontcanna Pine/Dairy site. Please attend the meeting to … Continue reading

12/01/12 Meeting Poster & List of Issues

Posters for our meeting on 12/01 are going up around Pontcanna today, please share the date and try to attend if you can. It is at 7.30pm in St Catherine’s Church Hall, Kings Road – to download the poster please click here Meeting Poster (2) A4 – thank you.

Council deadline extended to 23/01 & Proposal Documents

Great news – Further to our request for an extension, we have had confirmation by e-mail from Cardiff Council that the Pontcanna Pine planning application [Application 11/1213DCI]:

“will not be reported to January 11th Planning Committee and that it is more likely to be considered at the 8th February Committee… Please submit any representation you would wish to make on the application before the 23rd January 2012.”

If you wish to download the documents for this application please click on these links:

Plans and elevations Dec 2011
Retail Statement Dec 2011
Design & Access Statement Dec 2011
Transport Statement Dec 2011

We are holding a meeting at St Catherine’s Church Hall, Kings Road at 7.30pm on Thursday 12th Jan where we can discuss the revised application, please come along if you can. If you are not able to come and wish to contact the council please write/email by 23/01/12 to: Development Management City Development, City Hall, Cardiff CF10 3ND.
Email: developmentmanagement@cardiff.gov.uk

What else can you do? Please email us photos which demonstrate current parking and traffic issues – we can use these as part of our submission to council on the 23rd January.

Triple parking, a lorry filling the road with an Iceland van behind and a queue of traffic

Quote from the lorry driver: "We complain to the depot all the time about having to drive down these roads, it would be madness to have a supermarket here!"

Meanwhile thank you very much to anyone who has already written to the Council.

Many thanks -
The Pontcanna Pine team